Genealogy - KNIGHTs from Continental Europe to England/Ireland, to Philadelphia (PA), to France -Sept. 2018

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Ancestors of Baron Theobald II LE BOTILLER, 2nd Baron Butler [1085]
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Hervey II WALTER [2219]
(Abt 1130-Bef 1190)
Matilda DE VALOINES [2220]
Robert LE VAVASOUR [2221]
Julian DE ROSS [2222]
Baron Theobald I WALTER, Sheriff of Lancashire, Butler of England & Ireland [2217]
(Abt 1165-1206)
Maud LE VAVASOUR [2218]
(Abt 1176-Bef 1226)

Baron Theobald II LE BOTILLER, 2nd Baron Butler [1085]
(Abt 1201-1230)


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1. Rohese DE VERDUN [1090]

2. Joan DU MARAIS [4749]

Baron Theobald II LE BOTILLER, 2nd Baron Butler [1085]

  • Born: Abt 1201, Arklow, Wicklow, Ireland
  • Marriage (1): Rohese DE VERDUN [1090] about 1224 in , , England
  • Marriage (2): Joan DU MARAIS [4749] about 1222 in , , England
  • Died: 19 Jul 1230, , Poitou-Charentes, France about age 29
  • Buried: Arklow Abbey, Wicklow, Ireland


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Source <Wikipedia>:
"Theobald le Botiller, also known as Theobald Boteler, Theobald Butler, 2nd Baron Butler (by 1201 \endash July 19, 1230) was the son of Theobald Walter, 1st Baron Butler and Maud le Vavasour. He had livery of his lands on 18 July 1222.

Marriage and issue
Theobald married firstly by 1222 Joan du Marais (or Marisco) daughter of Geoffrey du Marais. Their son was:
Theobald Butler, 3rd Chief Butler of Ireland (d. 1248). He married Margery de Burgh, daughter of Richard Mor de Burgh and Egidia de Lacy, and had issue.

After the death of his first wife, Theobald remained a widower. Henry III of England requested the marriage of Theobald to Rohese de Verdon, daughter of Nicholas de Verdon of Alton, Staffordshire and Joan de Lacy, and the widow of William Perceval de Somery. The agreement to marry occurred on 4 September 1225. The marriage is presumed to have followed shortly afterwards. Their children were
John de Verdon, Lord of Meath (1226\endash 1274)
Maud de Verdon, (d. 27 November 1283) who married firstly John FitzAlan, feudal Lord of Clun and Oswestry and de jure Earl of Arundel.

Theobald was summoned cum equis et armis (Latin: "with horses and arms") to attend the King into Brittany, as "Theobaldus Pincerna" on 26 October 1229. He died on 19 July 1230 in Poitou, France, and was buried in the Abbey of Arklow, County Wicklow."
Source <>:
"Theobald Walter, the 2nd, adopted the surname of Botiler, or Butler, on being appointed chief Butler of Ireland ; this titular surname was retained by his descendants. ...

... After the death of Theobald Walter, king John, who had the guardianship of that nobleman's heir, gave two parts of the church to Simon Blund, 2 and later, in 1213, he bestowed the church upon W. Gray, chancellor, for life. 8 Edward I. conferred the advowson of the church of Kirkham upon the abbey of Vale Royal, a monastic house founded by him in Cheshire ; but the grant was not made without strenuous opposition on the part of Sir Theobald Walter or le Botiler,* a descendant of the Theobald specified above, who maintained that the king had no legal right to the advowson, which belonged to him as heir-at-law and descendant of Theobald Walter, the first. ...

This dispute probably occurred in the 8th year of Edward's sovereignty, 1280, for we find from the Rot. Chart, that at that date the advowson was granted by the monarch to the abbey of Vale Royal. ..."
Source <Genealogical memoir of the family of Montmorency, styled De Marisco or Morres> Par Hervey de Montmorency- Morres:
"Lady JOAN DE MARISCO, Wife Of Theobald Lord Butler Of Arklow.
Theobald the II, married Joan , sister of John de Mareis or de Marisco, of an ancient Norman family, and a considerable Baron in Ireland , to whose estate in that Kingdom, as well as in England, his posterity afterwards became heirs This marriage appeareth from a record in the tower of London among the escheat rolls of 22d Rich II, to this effect. ..."
Source <>:
"THEOBALD Walter, son of HERVE Walter & his wife Matilda [de Valoignes] (-England [20 Dec 1205/3 Apr 1206]). ... m (before 1200) as her first husband, MATILDA, daughter and co-heiress of ROBERT Le Vavasour & his wife --- (-before Jan 1226). ...

Theobald & his wife had two children:
THEOBALD Butler or Le Botiller ([1200]-before 19 Jul 1230). A charter dated 2 Jul 1220 records that "Theobald Walter being of full age, the king has taken his homage and…[causes] Theobald to have seisin of all the lands…which descend to him by right of inheritance from Theobald his father".

m firstly JOAN, daughter of GEOFFROY de Mareis, Justiciar & his wife ---. A charter dated [Aug] 1226 records that "Theobald Walter…has so misconducted himself in regard to the king that, although he has married the justiciary´s daughter and has by her a son, the justiciary would, if it is the king´s will, deprive him of all the land which he holds of the king in Ireland".

m secondly ([1225]) ROHESE de Verdun, daughter of NICHOLAS de Verdun of Alton, Staffordshire & his wife --- (-10 Feb 1247, bur Priory of Grace-Dieu, Belton). A charter dated 19 Jul 1230 records that Henry III King of England granted custody of "the lands and heirs of Theobald Fitz Walter and marriage of the heirs" to Richard Earl of Cornwall "saving to Rohesia who was his wife, her dower out of them". Henry III King of England granted "terris que fuerunt...Theobaldi quondam viri sui in Anglia...dotem suam" to "Rohesie que fuit uxor Theobaldi pincerne", dated 1231. A charter dated 23 Oct 1231 records that "Rohesia daughter and heir of Nicholas de Verdun made with the king a fine of 700 marks for her relief that she may have seisin of her father´s lands at his death…". The Chronicle of Croxden records the death "IV Id Feb" 1248 of "domina Roysia de Verdun fundatrix abbatiæ de Crokesden" and the succession of "dominus Johannes de Verdun filius eius". "John de Verdun made a fine with the king of 1,300 marks to have seisin of the lands both in England and Ireland which had belonged to Rohesia de Verdun his mother and whose heir he is" by charter dated 3 May 1247.

Theobald& his first wife had one child:
a) THEOBALD Butler (-1248). ...

Theobald & his second wife had one child:
b) JOHN de Verdun ([1226]-before 17 Oct 1274). ..." [and Maud ?]

Theobald married Rohese DE VERDUN [1090] [MRIN: 963], daughter of Nicholas DE VERDUN [2215] and Joane FITZ PIERS [2216], about 1224 in , , England. (Rohese DE VERDUN [1090] was born about 1200 in Alton, Staffordshire, England and died after 1230 in Dundalk, Louth, Ireland.)

Theobald next married Joan DU MARAIS [4749] [MRIN: 2795], daughter of Geoffrey DU MARAIS, Lord of Killorglin, Justiciar of Ireland [4750] and Unknown, about 1222 in , , England. (Joan DU MARAIS [4749] was born about 1200 in , , England and died about 1225 in , , England.)

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