Genealogy - KNIGHTs from Continental Europe to England/Ireland, to Philadelphia (PA), to France -Sept. 2018

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Emmeline [2235]
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Gautier DE LACY, Lord De Weobley [2234]

Emmeline [2235]

  • Marriage: Gautier DE LACY, Lord De Weobley [2234]
  • Died: After 27 Mar 1085, , , England

bullet   Another name for Emmeline was Emma.

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The identity of Sybil's parents is uncertain. (Sybil married Joscelin De Dinan)]

Source <Wikipedia>:
"Gautier de Lacy († 27 mars 1085), lord de Weobley, fut un important baron anglo-normand des marches galloises du règne de Guillaume le Conquérant.

Famille et descendance
Il épouse Ermeline († ap. 1085), d'ascendance inconnue. Ensemble ils ont pour descendance connue :
Roger, qui succède à son père mais est banni du royaume en 1095 ;
Hugues († v. 1115), qui succède à son frère en 1095 ;
Gautier († 1139), abbé de l'abbaye de Gloucester de 1130 à 1139 ;
Aveline, épouse de Robert FitzWalter ;
Ermeline ;
Source <Wikipedia>:
"Walter de Lacy (died 27 March 1085) was a Norman nobleman who came to England after the Norman Conquest of England in 1066. ...

Walter married Emma or Emmelina and they had three sons - Roger, Hugh and Walter. Roger was the heir to Weobley and Walter became Abbot of Gloucester Abbey. Occasionally the elder Walter is claimed to have married twice - once to Emma and once to an Ermeline, but this is probably a confusion of the variations of Emma's name. Walter and Emma also had a daughter who became a nun at St Mary's Abbey, Winchester. A niece was married to Ansfrid de Cormeilles. Considerable confusion exists about the wife of Pain fitzJohn, Sybil. C. P. Lewis names her as the daughter of Walter, but W. E. Wrightman calls her the daughter of Hugh, Walter's son. Yet another pedigree has her as the daughter of Agnes, the daughter of Walter. In this rendition, favoured by Bruce Coplestone-Crow, Agnes was married to Geoffrey Talbot.

The elder Walter died on 27 March 1085, falling off some scaffolding at Saint Guthlac's Priory when he was inspecting the progress of the building at that monastery. He was buried in the chapter house at Gloucester Abbey. He was a benefactor to Gloucester Abbey, as well as Saint Guthlac's."
Source <>:
"WALTER de Lacy, son of --- de Lacy & [his wife Emma ---] (-27 Mar 1085). ...

m [as her first husband,] EMMELINE, daughter of --- (-after 27 Mar 1085). The Historia sancti Petri Gloucestriæ records the death "VI Kal Apr" 1085 of "Walterus fundator Sancti Petri Hereford", his burial "Gloucestriæ in capitulo", and the donation of "villam quinque hidarum Duntesborne tempore Serlonis abbatis" [abbot from 1072 to 1104] made by "uxor eius Ermelina". Domesday Book records "Roger de Lacy" holding Siddington in Gloucestershire, adding that "his mother holds it as her dower land". A charter of Stephen King of England dated 1138 confirmed donations to Gloucester St Peter including the donation by "Emelinæ uxoris Walterii de Laceio" of "Duntesburna".
[There are indications that Emmeline may have married secondly Arnoul de Hesdin . Both families made numerous donations to Gloucester St Peter, although it has not yet proved possible to link any of the names of land donated to both families, but most significantly the Historia sancti Petri Gloucestriæ, in a list of holdings, records (in order) donations made by "Walterus de Lacy dedit Leden, Ernulfus de Hesding dedit Lyncoholt, Hermelina de Lacy dedit pro anima viri sui Duntesbourne…". The interposition of Arnoul´s name between Walter de Lacy and his wife Emmeline is best explained if he was Emmeline´s second husband. From a chronological point of view, the two marriages would fit. It should be emphasised that this suggestion is speculative. If it is correct, she could have been Emmeline , daughter of [Dreux de Baladon & his wife ---]. The reasoning behind this speculative parentage is discussed in the document WALES.]

Walter & his wife had [six] children:
1. ROGER de Lacy (-after [1107/22]).
2. WALTER de Lacy ([1072/73]-[8] Feb 1139).
3. HUGH de Lacy (-before 1121).
4. EMMELINE de Lacy
5. EMMA de Lacy
6. [AGNES (-after 1129)."

Emmeline married Gautier DE LACY, Lord De Weobley [2234] [MRIN: 1262]. (Gautier DE LACY, Lord De Weobley [2234] was born in Lassy, Normandie, France, died on 27 Mar 1085 in , , England and was buried in Gloucester Cathedral, Gloucestershire, England.)

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