Genealogy - KNIGHTs from Continental Europe to England/Ireland, to Philadelphia (PA), to France - Oct. 2019

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Ancestors of Hugues V DE GOURNAY [2768]
Gérard DE GOURNAY [2774]
Edith DE WARENNE [2775]
(-After 1155)
Thomas DE MARLE, Sire De Coucy et de La Fère [2772]
Melisende DE CRECY [2773]
Hugues IV DE GOURNAY, Sire De La Ferté, Beaussault Et De Gaillefontaine [2770]
Melisende DE COUCY [2771]
(Abt 1107-)
Hugues V DE GOURNAY [2768]


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Juliane DE DAMMARTIN [2769]

Hugues V DE GOURNAY [2768]

  • Born: , , England
  • Marriage: Juliane DE DAMMARTIN [2769]
  • Died: 25 Oct 1214, , , England

bullet   Another name for Hugues was DE GURNEY.

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"HUGUES [IV] de Gournay, son of GERARD de Gournay & his wife Edith de Warenne ([1098/1100]-1180). ...m firstly BEATRIX de Vermandois, daughter of HUGUES [I] Comte de Vermandois [Capet] & his wife Adelais Ctss de Vermandois. ...
m secondly (after [1151]) as her second husband, MELISENDE de Coucy, widow of ADELEME Châtelain d´Amiens, daughter of THOMAS de Marle Comte d´Amiens, Seigneur de Coucy, de Marle et de Boves & his third wife Mélisende de Crècy. ...

Hugues [IV] & his second wife had two children: ...
3. HUGUES [V] de Gournay (-25 Oct [1214]). "Dominus Hugo de Gournaio et Milesend uxor illius" founded Clairruissel priory, with the consent of "filiorum nostrorum Girardi et Hugonis", by undated charter. Ralph de Diceto records that "Hugo de Gornai, tam pater quam filius" were captured in 1173 "a Rege filio" during the rebellion of Henry the Young King against his father Henry II King of England. "…Hugone de Gurnai…" subscribed the charter dated to [1182/89] under which Henry II King of England confirmed the possessions of the abbey of Barbery. "Hugo de Gornaco" founded Bellosanne Abbey by charter dated 1198. "Hugo de Gornaco" donated property to Fécamp, for the souls of "Juliane uxoris mee et puerorum meorum", by charter dated 1202. The Testa de Nevill lists knights who held land in Buckinghamshire, Bedfordshire, dated to [1208/10]: "Hugo de Gurnay" held "Wendoun de dominico domini regis". The Red Book of the Exchequer records "Hugo de Gurnay" holding three knights´ fees in Norfolk in [1210/12]. The Close Rolls dated 9 Sep [1214] record the illness of "Hugonis de Gornaco" and name "Gerardi filii primogeniti et heredis sui". The Annals of Dunstable record that "Hugo de Gurnaco" became a Templar "in Pictavia" and died in 1213. The obituary of Belosanne Abbey records the death 25 Oct of Hugues de Gournay.

m JULIANE [de Dammartin, daughter of AUBRY [II] Comte de Dammartin & his wife Mathilde [Mabile] de Clermont-en-Beauvaisis]. "Hugo de Gornaco" donated property to Fécamp, for the souls of "Juliane uxoris mee et puerorum meorum", by charter dated 1202. Her parentage is confirmed only by a letter which purports to be from her granddaughter "Dame Julian Tresgoze…espouse…a Sr Robert Tresgoos le Second" to "son frère St Thomas de Cantlow, Euesque…de Hereford" which gives a confused version of the family´s lineage: "Sr Hugh de Gornaye" married "la reyne Blanch" [widow of Louis VIII King of France, such a second marriage being impossible chronologically] and had "un fils…Hugh…nostre ayle", who married "la soer le count Renaud de Boloyng". Genealogical details in other parts of the letter can be corroborated against other sources. It is therefore difficult to decide whether the entry relating to the wife of Hugues [V] should be dismissed in the same way as the supposed marriage of his father to the widow of King Louis VIII or whether it is factually correct. Although no other source has been identified which confirms the name of Hugues´s wife, the couple´s granddaughter was named Juliane which gives some credence to this being her grandmother´s name. Another possibility is that Hugues [V] married twice: the birth date of his granddaughter Juliane suggests that her father must have been late in his own father´s life.] Hugues [V] & his wife had three children:

a) GERARD de Gournay (-[9 Sep 1214/22 Apr 1216])
b) MELISENDE de Gournay (-after 14 Mar 1217). ...
c) HUGUES [VI] de Gournay of Mapledurham, Oxfordshire (-1239, bur Langley Abbey, Norfolk)"

Hugues married Juliane DE DAMMARTIN [2769] [MRIN: 9], daughter of Comte Aubry II DE DAMMARTIN, Sire De Lillebonne & De Montreuil [1250] and Mahaut DE CLERMONT-EN-BEAUVAISIS [1264]. (Juliane DE DAMMARTIN [2769] was born in , , England and died in , , England.)

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