Genealogy - KNIGHTs from Continental Europe to England/Ireland, to Philadelphia (PA), to France - Nov. 2017

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Ancestors of Emma [2781]
Emma [2781]
(-Abt 1130)

 

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Herbert DE WINCHESTER, Of Winchester, Chancellor & Chamberlain [2780]

Emma [2781]

  • Marriage: Herbert DE WINCHESTER, Of Winchester, Chancellor & Chamberlain [2780]
  • Died: Abt 1130, , , England

bullet  General Notes:

[Emma, probably daughter of Hunger FITZ ODIN and not of Etienne DE BLOIS]


Source <Wikipedia>:
"Étienne II de Blois ...

Enfant illégitime possible :
Emma, épouse de Herbert de Winchester. Il semble toutefois qu'Emma n'ait rien à voir avec la Maison de Blois. Elle serait plutôt la fille de Hunger fitz Odin, seigneur de Broad Windsor. Elle est la mère de Guillaume FitzHerbert , archevêque d'York (1143-1147, 1153-1154)."
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Source <http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/ENGLISHNOBILITYMEDIEVAL3D-K.htm#AliceMPiersFiztHerbert>:
"HERBERT FitzHenry, son of HENRY & his wife --- (-[1129/30]). ...

m EMMA, daughter of ---. The Hyde Register lists "Herbertus camerarius, Arnulfus filius eius, Emma uxor eius" immediately after the names of King Henry I and his first wife. Secondary sources state that she was Emma de Blois, illegitimate daughter of Etienne Comte de Blois & his mistress ---. This is presumably based on the Chronicle of Meaux, in Yorkshire, which names "comitis --- Herberti filius, ex Emma sorore regis Anglorum Stephani progenitus". As this source is dated to [1394/1400], it is unlikely to be conclusive in relation to events which occurred 250 years earlier in the absence of other corroborative evidence. Eyton includes no reference to any wife of Herbert FitzHenry in his article on the barony of FitzHerbert. Until further evidence comes to light, it is suggested that the information be considered with caution. If it is correct, the chronology of the FitzHerbert family dictates that Emma must have been born while her supposed father was still young, maybe even before his marriage to Adela of Normandy in 1080.

Herbert & his wife had six children:

1. ARNULF
2. RICHARD
3. HERBERT FitzHerbert [I] (-[before 1155]). ...
4. WILLIAM FitzHerbert (-8 Jun 1154)
5. daughter
6. daughter"


Emma married Herbert DE WINCHESTER, Of Winchester, Chancellor & Chamberlain [2780] [MRIN: 1588]. (Herbert DE WINCHESTER, Of Winchester, Chancellor & Chamberlain [2780] was born about 1060 in Winchester, Hampshire, England and died in 1129-1130 in Winchester, Hampshire, England.)




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