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Ancestors of Sir Robert II DE THURNHAM, Baron Of Mulgrave, Sénéchal Du Poitou [3988]
Robert I DE THURNHAM, Sénéchal D'anjou [3991]
(-Abt 1174)
Sir Robert II DE THURNHAM, Baron Of Mulgrave, Sénéchal Du Poitou [3988]


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Joan FOSSARD [3989]

Sir Robert II DE THURNHAM, Baron Of Mulgrave, Sénéchal Du Poitou [3988]

  • Marriage: Joan FOSSARD [3989]
  • Died: 26 Apr 1211, Thurnham Castle, Kent, England

bullet   Another name for Robert was TURNHAM, TURNEHAM, THORNHAM, TOURNEHEM, TOURNEHAM.

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Source <A Genealogical History of the Dormant: Abeyant, Forfeited, and Extinct ...> Par Sir Bernard Burke:
"... Peter De Maulet, in marriage, Isabel, dau. of Robert de Turnham, and heiress of the Barony of Mulgrave. ..."
Source <Wikipedia>:
"Robert of Thornham (or Robert de Turnham) (died 1211) was an English soldier and administrator. The namesake of his landowner father, he was the younger brother of Stephen of Thornham. Robert made his reputation in connection with the conquest of Cyprus in 1191 during the Third Crusade. On order of King Richard I, he led half the fleet in that battle. Subsequently, he was responsible for controlling the island when the Crusaders moved on, first jointly with Richard de Camville and then independently, when he defeated a group of Cypriot rebels. After he left Cyprus, Robert became more closely identified with Richard I. As the king's familiaris, he carried Richard's equipment from the Holy Land to England. When Richard I was captured in 1192 in Vienna, among the terms of his release was the presentation of men to stand as "pledges" that the ransom would be paid. Robert was among these hostages, though evidently not for long, as he was back by the king's side in 1194 at Poitiers. Appointed Seneschal of Anjou, he served in France with Richard I, primarily in Anjou and Normandy, throughout the rest of Richard's reign. At around the same time, he was also appointed High Sheriff of Surrey, but he did not return to England until after Richard's death. In 1196, he led troops at Richard's behest into Brittany on an unsuccessful attempt to capture the child Duke of Brittany Arthur, whose mother Constance was resistant to Richard's control. In 1197, King Richard arranged for Robert to marry Isabella Fossard, daughter and heiress of the powerful Yorkshire baron William Fossard. The Fossard inheritance included the castle, honor, and lordship of Mulgrave with 34.5 attached knight's fees.

... In 1203, he made an effort to regain the city of Angers from the French, but though he partially destroyed the city he was unsuccessful and was captured. Ransomed in 1205, he continued to serve John, travelling with him during the Anjou campaign of 1206. From 1205 to 1207 he focused on his service as High Sheriff of Surrey before returning in 1207 to France as Seneschal of Poitou. He died on 26 April 1211 with the Bishop of Winchester at his deathbed.

Robert's heir was his daughter Isabella, who married Peter de Maulay in 1214."
Source <Notes and Queries: A Medium of Intercommunication for Literary Men, General ...>:
"Family of De Thurnham. - In reply to 9. I send a few notes illustrative of the pedigree, &c. of the De Thurnhams, lords of Thurnham, in Kent, deduced from Dugdale, public records, and MS. charters in m possession, namely, the MS. Rolls of Combwell priory, which was founded by Robert de Thurnham the elder; from which it appears that Robert de Thurnham, who lived tempore Hen. II., had two sons, Robert and Stephen. Of these, Robert married Joan, daughter of William Fossard, and died 13 John, leaving a daughter and sole heir Isabel, for whose marriage Peter de Maulay had to pay 7000 marks, which were allowed him in his accounts for services rendered to the crown. ..."
Source <>:
"... Eight hundred years ago, the de Thurnham brothers, Stephen and Robert, sailed forth from their castle in Kent to go crusading with Richard the Lionheart and the rest of the nobility of Europe. But not before Robert de Thurnham had built the present fortifications, known as Thurnham Castle, in the reign of Henry II. (The remains of the 12th century Thurnham Castle can still be found about a third of a mile north of the church).
Robert de Thurnham was also given command of the English fleet, while his brother Stephen was entrusted with escorting the Queen Mother, Eleanor, on a mission to collect His Majesty's betrothed, the beautiful Berengaria of Navarre. Stephen saw the king and his bride safely married on Cyprus, where Robert was made governor, and later on Stephen was sent back to England, again as escort to the Queen and her mother-in-law. It was Robert who acted as chief fund-raiser when the crusade-impoverished flower of the English peerage was dunned into subscribing to the ransom demanded by the Emperor of Austria if they wanted their king-napped monarch back again. Kings men through and through were the de Thurnhams, and yet they survived all the hazards of their day to die peacefully in their beds at Thurnham. Where all the villagers who ploughed and sowed and harvested the lands that supported their castle lived and died we really do not know. ..."

Robert married Joan FOSSARD [3989] [MRIN: 2312], daughter of Sir William II FOSSARD, Baron De Mulgrave [3990] and Beatrice [3993]. (Joan FOSSARD [3989] was born in 1176 in , , England and died in 1191 in , , England.)

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